Sunday, November 28, 2010

Re: [rti4empowerment] Re: [rti4ngo] Internet RTI impersonation allegations get murkier

 

dear sir ,
 
login ur yahoomail  account.  go to more option at top . click on groups . all yahoogroups shall appear with which u r a member . click the group of which u r moderator /  owner . click message at left . write " googlegroups " in search window . enter . all mails having words " " shall appear .
select these mails n press delete button n the intended work is done.
 
regards
 
urvashi
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--- On Mon, 29/11/10, Dhirendra <dhirendra.krishna@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dhirendra <dhirendra.krishna@yahoo.com>
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Re: [rti4ngo] Internet RTI impersonation allegations get murkier
To: rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 29 November, 2010, 10:00 AM

 
Friends,

I hate to get into acrimonious debates, but there is a point of information I will like to share, as it pertains to this group.

It has been stated in few mails that yahoo groups are likely to close down on 15.1.2011. It has been ascertained from persoons working in yahoo is that THIS IS FALSE AND BASELESS.

Let us not waste our time and effort to criticize the enthusiasm of few persons in promoting their group. If our objective is to promote awareness of RTI, we can not object to more groups created for this purpose. I would prefer to take a charitable view and laugh at the aberrations arising from their misplaced enthusiasm ! There is no competition or rivalry.

My humble request is please do not post any further messages about google groups. Very soon, I would prefer to delete all messages relating to criticism of RTI google groups. Can some one please help me to identify them?

Dhirendra Krishna
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--- In rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com, urvashi sharma <rtimahilamanchup@...> wrote:
>
> dear veereshji ,
>
> the anonymous owners of the HumJanenge google group has hijacked
> almost all of my mail ids . not only this i was getting the unwanted
> mails from uncivilised , uncultured members of those googlegroups so
> to teach them a lesson , i put all my mail ids on mail forward to my
> blogs and the result is before me , the google group spammers have
> stopped sending unwanted e-mails to me and i am relieved of the
> problem of mails from uncivilised , uncultured spammers.
>
> now i am happy with my yahoogroups which are people friendly .and are
> really humane.
>
> urvashi
>
> On 11/28/10, veeresh kumar <v4veeresh@...> wrote:
> > Internet RTI impersonation allegations get
> > murkier<http://humjanenge.org.in/forum/index.php/topic,9.0.html>
> >
> > The anonymous owners of the HumJanenge google group have publicly challenged
> > Indian financial media guru Sucheta Dalal, and publisher of the Moneylife
> > e-zine to retract news reports alleging that email IDs of deceased persons
> > were being misused on internet RTI chat groups such as theirs.
> >
> > In an article published on 24.November Moneylife had alleged that the
> > HumJanenge RTI google group, now the largest RTI internet mailing list in
> > India with 2,500 subscribers, was creating hatred and not even sparing
> > deceased members by using their names and e-mail IDs. They reported that
> > some RTI activists, including journalists, plan to file complaints with the
> > cyber crime cell of the police, including for spreading spyware thorugh
> > attachments sent from RTI groups to spy on activists.
> >
> > In a reply published online the next day, the group's owner, identified only
> > by the initials "PMK" (which he emphasised did not derive from Prakash M
> > Kardaley - the deceased founder of HumJange) addressed many of the
> > allegations made in great detail and described the Moneylife story as
> > "irresponsible reporting". PMK said,
> >
> > 1. Not a single message / email has originated (and we stress "originated")
> > from this group (HJ-GG) which uses a name or email ID not that of the
> > original sender.
> >
> > 2. Not a single email / message has either (a) originated or (b) been
> > forwarded from this group using the name or email ID of a deceased person.
> >
> > 3 No malware / virus has been sent or forwarded from this group.. One of the
> > reasons we use the google platform is for better malware protection
> > (compared to Yahoo).
> >
> > 4 There has been absolutely no IMPERSONATION of people (ie. human beings) on
> > this group.
> >
> > 5. It is a brazen lie to claim that HumJanenge@googlegroups has created a
> > web of inter-connected groups. This is complete rubbish. The groups are not
> > connected and won't be any time soon. The truth of the matter is that yahoo
> > and google IDs collectively account for about 80% of members in any RTI
> > group. By migrating to googlegroups we eventually intend to take advantage
> > of OPENID, a system whereby both Yahoo or Google users can login / post to
> > these RTI groups. In addition due to "collaboration" between moderators of
> > these groups, troublesome members / spammers / scammers etc can be booted
> > off all groups to protect our members.
> >
> > 6. Everyone who has asked to be unsubscribed has been. Almost always within
> > 24 hours. Our software team have tracked down and eliminated almost all the
> > spammers and the fake blogs they were using to repost / forward posts from
> > this group. In addition about 2 DMCA takedown notices / complaints to Google
> > for copyright infringement and 12 for spam generation takedown concerning
> > posts made from this group illegally reposted by a blogger.com reposting
> > service operated by "Urvashi Sharma" have been filed on behalf of this
> > group.
> >
> > With the battlelines drawn, this online duel has only just begun.
> >
> > http://www.mynews.in/News/internet_rti_impersonation_allegations_get_murkier_N114054.html
> >
>
>
> --
> Urvashi Sharma
>
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>
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