Thursday, December 2, 2010

[rti4empowerment] Fw: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts

 



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From: "Urvi Sukul Singh" <usukulsingh@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:36 PM
To: <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts

> Mr Roy,
> To me it appears your ideas are at odds with those of others besides me as
> well.You appear to be getting the wrong end of the stick and coming to the
> wrong conclusions.Besides,one does not have to stick to your phrases in
> the fear of raising your ire.
> I have corresponded in the past with Mr Mathur(he is also on the
> rti4emp@yahoogroup),therefore,I do not see that he needs you to jump to
> his defence.
> To many of us fairness and transparency may have something in common.Once
> again,one does not have to toe your line for fear of your questioning
> one's motives.What gives you the right to appoint yourself as an
> arbiter?Please accept that you are not always right.And,frankly,with this
> I hope to end my correspondence with you.
>
> Urvi Sukul Singh
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:55 PM
> To: <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts
>
>> Dear Ms Singh
>>
>> 1) I don't consider myself to be an activist. My views on activists
>> (and especially RTI activists) are in the public domain.
>>
>> 2) I don't recall using the phrase "high-end". It resonates with say
>> "high end" whore or "High class" prostitute.
>>
>> 3) I have never corresponded with Mr Rejimon for a very long time now.
>>
>> 4) You have now started coming across my posts because somebody has
>> subscribed you to this group (after laying hands on the members list
>> of rti4..@yg ..)
>>
>> 5) I am not spewing "venom". I am releasing material (almost
>> exclusively govt records) into the public space which the
>> establishment wants suppressed.
>>
>> 6) For me personally, the important things is that the "system" should
>> be "fair". I am not asking for the system to be transparent. In fact
>> my experience is that transparency runs counter to fairness. We need
>> fair exams, fair courts, fair tribunals like the CIC/SICs.
>> Whenever, I come across examples of unfairness, I shall post to this
>> group (and other
>> groups) with supporting evidence and if you still want to stop me then
>> I must seriously
>> question your motives.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 12/2/10, Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mr Roy,
>>> If you are considered a high-end RTI activist,then I will gladly bid
>>> goodbye to the RTI groups.BTW,before you pass judgement,I would suggest
>>> you
>>> ask the people who are on the Group (and VERY REAL people,believe me,L
>>> because I have met or spoken telephonically to many of them) as to
>>> whether I
>>> contribute positively or not.
>>> Hardcore doesn't imply licence to kill(with rude words) it implies a
>>> deep
>>> commitment ,and I think we will have to put to the vote whether your
>>> commitment is deeper than that of the the next man/woman.
>>> I have witnessed your personal attacks on this Group on people,with
>>> specific
>>> reference to Mr Rejimon.For a long period in the middle ,I did not come
>>> across your posts.You have,however,returned,and you are spewing venom
>>> most
>>> of the time,
>>> I request the moderators of the Groups on which Mr Roy is a member,to
>>> take
>>> me off those Groups if I also figure in those lists.All except
>>> rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com The rest of you,please carry on with
>>> your
>>> Group of high-enders!
>>> Best of luck.
>>> Urvi Sukul Singh
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "sroy1947" <sroy1947@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:59 PM
>>> To: "HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005"
>>> <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts
>>>
>>>> Dear Ms Singh
>>>>
>>>> This is a group for hard=core RTI activists. Quite obviously ladies
>>>> with weak constitutions are not up to digesting alot of what is posted
>>>> to this group and most of which is quite frankly nausea inducing
>>>> concerning the rampant corruption in the Info Commissions and the
>>>> judiciary..
>>>>
>>>> I concur that a group like rti4empowerment@yahoogroups is the only
>>>> group which will suit your delicate temperament. The moderator there
>>>> is really scraping the bottom of the barrel if he permits posts from
>>>> you and RSingh631 etc to his members (somebody else has already shown
>>>> that half the member list over there is fake).
>>>>
>>>> PS: If you read the first post in this thread, you will find that it
>>>> was not I who raised this issue/attack but the Law Commission of
>>>> India.
>>>>
>>>> Sarbajit
>>>>
>>>> Urvi Sukul Singh wrote:
>>>>> Mr Roy,
>>>>> You suggest action against people making suggestions yet your
>>>>> language
>>>>> and
>>>>> the tenor of you mails is absolutely unbearable at times.Time someone
>>>>> took
>>>>> action against you.Most of what one has read over the last few weeks
>>>>> is a
>>>>> load of rubbish,with you a regular participant.
>>>>> I have requested being taken off all groups other than
>>>>> rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.Kindly comply.Otherwise,till I get the
>>>>> mails,if
>>>>> I feel the need I will reply.
>>>>> Urvi Sukul Singh
>>>>> PS I find this attack on the judiciary very unseemly.
>>>>
>>>
>>

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