The problem is intrinsic
Why treat symptoms??
Why not the malady? 
Can a Jan Lokpal Bill make People honest?
Is self integrity a function of some bill passed in parliament?
Anna Hazare showed the way, But I doubt if even He knew
what he was showing, leave alone the ones who are said
to be supporting him.
If there's anything to learn from this episode, it the lessson about
How a single person'e integrity and moral stature can be a force
to be reckoned with.
How many are going to be influenced into making the effort to acquire
the kind of moral stature that Anna enjoyed (?) before this episode at Jantar mantar.
Has the lesson been missed by both the teacher and the pupil?
With best wishes,
from
Rahul, 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Col Shivraj <colshivraj@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Col Shivraj <colshivraj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rti4ngo] Protest against Bhushans at Jantar Mantar
To: "Nutan Thakur" <nutanthakurlko@gmail.com>
Cc: rti4ngo@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 11:20 AM
Dear Nutan Ji and Friends in this group,
While I agree that people must practice what they preach, the case of Jan Lokpal bill is different. We are not going into the past of the individuals but need a team to match the opponents. I also agree that there may be thousands other individuals who could do equally better, if not more. They all can offer their services and help the team. Why similar questions have not been circulated about the members of the other side. The need of the hour is to show unconditional solidarity to Anna Ji to get the Jan Lokpal Bill passed.
regards
Col Shivraj
210 Munirka Vihar
New Delhi-110067
Phone: 26102999
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Nutan Thakur <nutanthakurlko@gmail.com> wrote: thanks a lot Colonel saheb. I m really impressed by ur line of thought sir though we do differ on the basic presumptions.
I hope u agree that we can disagree on issues involved and yet have respect for each other's point of view.
I have nothing personal against anyone, all I wanted is that those claiming cleaning the system need to show extra precaution as regards themselves because their responsibility increases in the same proportion. hope u agree with this.On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Col Shivraj <colshivraj@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Nutan Ji,We are not defending anyone. Let the Law take its own course. The need of the hour is to ensure that Jan Lokpal Bill is passed. We all must aim it and put all our resources in that direction only. The Govt has succeeded in diverting the attention of the citizens of India. We must not allow them to succeed further in their such aspirations. My humble request to you all is to utilise the expertise of the available members at this stage and not to create new issues. We should, in fact, create problems for the members on the Govt side.
regards Col Shivraj 210 Munirka Vihar New Delhi-110067 Phone: 26102999 Mob : + 919810433842 http://www.google.com/profiles/colshivraj. http://www.facebook.com/poster.hataoMY DELHI , POSTER and NOISE FREE DELHI On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Nutan Thakur <nutanthakurlko@yahoo.in> wrote: Anna Hazare, who spearheaded the nation-wide movement against Corruption is today completely silent about the serious accusations made against members of his own Core team. It is already giving a very bad signal. Moreover it is discrediting the entire Civil society movement in the eyes of the people. Hence it is important that independent enquiry be conducted against Shanti Bhushan and his son Prashant Bhushan as regards the serious allegations and till the time the result of this enquiry is over, either they get themselves detached from the Drafting Committee or Anna ensures the same. This is important to have transparency in the system and to give a clean message. If this is avoided, this will have a very adverse impact on the entire movement. It is also highly objectionable that people like Arvind Kejariwal, Kiran Bedi are openly siding with these people as if to protect their faults, while their natural stand would have been to demand an enquiry themselves. Kiran Bedi says that this is a fight between honest and dishonest people but how does she decide anyone as being honest even if such serious allegations are pouring in. Kejriwal says that the norms of resignation differ for Ministers and Civil society members. Is it tolerable? Worst, Anna is avoiding the question and saying that only Bhushans can answer this, while he should have immediately pounced and asked for enquiry and appropriate action.
When we could no longer tolerate , to put this point of view, Institute for Research and Documentation in Social Sciences (IRDS), National RTI Forum and other societies have today held a protest named "Anna, Do Justice"
We have the following two main demands-
1. Initiate immediate high level enquiry against Sri Shanti Bhushan and Sri Prashant Bhushan as regards the charges of corruption against them
2. To ask them to get away from Lokpal Bill Drafting Committee till the time the enquiry is conducted or to remove them from the Committee
We have decided that if the required action is not taken within the required period of 15 days, we will take the matter on a much larger scale.
The main persons to be present in the Dharna have been Dr Nutan Thakur, Dinesh Pratap Singh, Tajendra Pal Singh, Aniruddh Singh, Anuj Agrwal, Saurabh Kumar, Khushhal Jaggarwal, Puneet Gargia etc.
Dr Nutan Thakur,
Convener, National RTI Forum,
Lucknow
94155-34525
nutanthakurlko@gmail.com |
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Dr Nutan Thakur,
Secretary, IRDS/
Convener, National RTI Forum,
Lucknow
94155-34525
www.nationalrtiforum.org
www.irdsindia.com
www.nspinfia.com
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