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'IndusInd=022-099-801' [rti4empowerment] Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 

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From: Victor Cooper victor99cooper@yahoo.com [rti4empowerment] [rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 24 2014 9:28PM
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Subject: [rti4empowerment] Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegr  

It is done and over, so it may not be the best to debate why Modi won or Congress lost. Rather, it would be better if we discussed what he could / should do to fix the broken country.
In my opinion, the basic fix can be achieved within a maximum of 6 months, PROVIDED one is willing for some hard decisions.
DEFICIT:  De-control petrol-diesel prices. Reduce subsidised gas cylinders to maybe 6. Decontrol kerosene. Sack several thosand criminal-corrupt type babus using the summary provision, and forfeit their retirement and other benifits. Remove the free-loading "perks" like free electricity-water-phones-air & train travel-unpaid medical facilities-housing, etc. given to MPs-MLAs-babus. Reduce the annual leave to maybe 15 days for maybe first 5 years of service, and 20 days thereafter. Shut down the redundant ministries. Salary increases ONLY on performance, maybe improvement of 5 or 10 notches in India ratings regarding ease of doing business, corruption, quality of bureaucracy, etc. .... the list is endless and there for anybody to see.

INFLATION: remove all taxes and levies from processed foods. Do maybe 1 or 3 lac micro irrigation projects. Set up small farmer co-operatives near/inside cities for them to market their produce directly to consumers. Cold storage ...... and so on.

JUSTICE: Fill all judge vacancies within first 60 days. To overcome constraint of judge shortages, increase retirement age to 70. To overcome infrastructure constraints, have courts work in two shifts. To overcome bad apple "judges" audio-video every courtroom AND bring in strong Judicial standards law, etc. Increase number of judges by 3-fold (level of good third world countries), if not 5-fold (level of advanced countries).

OVERALL: Make a fresh start by forgiving all petty criminal cases of maybe 1 year punishment. Forgive all Sec 144 cases. Forgive all pending tax disputes of maybe 10 or 25 lacs.

IN FUTURE: Dismantle the culture of "chalta-hai" and permissiveness given birth to and nurtured by Congress and its clones. All non-court cases to be settled within 3 months, all court cases with 12 months. Enhance punishments to a level that really "bites".

Victor


From: "Ramakrishna Chitrapu rkchitrapu@hotmail.com [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: India Force Yahoo Groups <janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 
SP,BSP, Lalu etc etc.. if they give their support they will also be washed out in the Tsunami.
Only thing I do not want them back on islands here and there.. some kind hearted fellow take them on to their ships thinking they are ship wrecked passengers.God Forbid

Ramakrishna




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CC: RavindraKKoul@gmail.com
From: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 11:54:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 

Let us not give one or other excuses for victory of NDA and rout of UPA and others (SP, BSP, Lalu, Comrades..) who extended support to UPA to bail it out.

It was Janta Janardan who delivered their fitting punitive or rewarding verdict and  the same to be accepted by parties and their supporters.

Moderator
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How can you change your position within a breath. First you say that it was anti-congress wave that won him election, and you follow it with it was RSS work that gave him election. Makeup your mind first. And as UMA Bharati has said, people like Modi have personalities shaped by RSS and that is what I like most. He will be purely nationalistic, and like Gujarat curb the corruption by putting systems and processes. 
SO smile it is going to be grand 5 years.
Ravindra Koul
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On May 24, 2014, at 3:52 AM, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com [Janshakti] <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

It is not my slavish mentality. It is the crystal ball gazing. He has won the election more on the anti Congress wave than self generated pro Modi mania. With the majority the BJP has achieved, all the mistakes they will make, and they will make plenty of them, will be laid at their door steps, no coalition Dharma any more. So there will be no excuse for not fulfilling the huge list of election promises that they have made, some requiring constitutional amendments with far reaching implications.   Any Bhrashtachar in the next five years would be purely by the BJP and no one else. If N Modi is as realist as his image makers suggest, he should keep the RSS in check This may not be easy because the kind of victory RSS cadres have scored for him, it  cannot but breed arrogance, add this to the arrogance of power, and some remarkable results will follow. There will be no Baba Ram Dev breathing down N Modi's neck to declare non descript Kala Dhan as national asset and repatriate it. Failure to do so will show the BJP's out of power bluff. The party hardliner will almost certainly be driven by a fever to repaint India in their favourite colour, It may not be possible to stop them from altering the tone and tenor of the political discourse. They may resume their bid to use the education system and re-write textbooks for the promotion of their worldview. Any failure on the part of N Modi to use a firm hand to ward off consequent threat to minorities will be debited to the account of the BJP and how he handles the communal street fights will make or break his chances in any kind of re-election.

Unless, he makes remarkable progress on the economic front which he could do by bringing the fiscal deficit under control, scarp the welfare projects and spend the money on the infrastructure development and create a feel good atmosphere and call a mid term election. I have no reason to think that the people who rejected the 
 old and debilitated Congress/UPA in this election would not bring it back as the past history has shown us, .provided the Congress puts its act together in the meantime. Devinder  
From: "vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections
 
Lett us not go into her past history which if we dig properly may disclose shocking facts. The way she accopied the chair shows her mental set up and a reflaction of her charecter. So also there is no point in discussing what will happen in future but your statement that some one from the dynasty will make the party win the next two elections shows your slavish mentality and sycophancy of the dynasty and which is the main reason for the party's such horrible defeat.
 
V.S.Sardesai

From: "devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 23 May 2014 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 
What was she before she became the Congress President. A housewife!!!. How she occupied the chair of the Party is not relevant. She made the party win two consecutive elections after a brief interval of the NDA regime. Similarly some one from the dynasty will make the party win the next two elections after the present brief interval by Namo.  Devinder 
From: "vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections
 
If what you say, that the family is the integral need of the Congress to survive is correct, then earlier it disintegrates the better.
Why do you still want to tell lies about Sonia's role as wousewife grieving the death of her husband in private till she was brought in the forefront? Is it to gain sympathy which the dynasty now requires? I think you are aware how she occupied the chair of President of Congress by locking the then president Kesri in the toilet? 
AsregardsPriyanka you better give the advice to your masters instead of telling us what they should do or not do.
 
V.S. Sardesai
 
 
From: "devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 
The family is the integral need of the Congress Without the family the Congress will disintegrate in no time. There is no one who can take over the reigns of the party. Sonia Gandhi a houswife turned politician, was grieving the death of her husband in private when they brought her into the forefront. In the event she proved her worth. She won them two elections. It is not known who will be the leader of the Congress in Parliament, against N Modi.  Sonia or Rahul assisted by Kamal Nath and Shahsi Tharoor..

No doubt, Priyanaka is more media savvy and also has tremendous presence but what would they do with Rahul, if she comes to lead the party. Priyanka should not venture into politics while there is this huge Vadhera black cloud of land scandal is hanging over the family. She should put the Vadhera scadal to rest for ever before coming to politics

 There are many talented people in the Congress but they are not given the opportunity to develop their talent. Personally, I like Shashi Tharoor and I have no doubt that if he plays his cards right, he is capable of doing better things.  Devinder .  
From: "vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections
 
Devinderji,
Irrespective of whether Priyanka wants to join politics or not, there are sycophants in Congress who want her to join politics to save Congress without even asssessing whether she has got the capacity to save the party. and I am speaking about them. Asfar as Priyanke is concerned from her talks and behaviour she appears to be a fit sister of the brother.
I don't understand why they cannot afford to get rid of the dynasty now. I feel now is the opportune period to get rid of the family which has enjoyed and is enjoying at the cost of the party treating it as a family concern to loot the country which is the main reason for this route of Congress.
It is correct that the voters can consign the party to dust-bin and if the party does not learn the lesson, and throw away the dynasty it will face the same fate.
 
V.S.Sardesai
 
   
From: "devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2014 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 
Vasant Ji, In fairness Priyanka has always helped her mother and now also her brother in their constituencies. Priyanak did not enter politics or the campaign in any other significant way. It was the media who go lotun potun seeing her and want her more visible. There are also some people in the Congress Party who want to see her in an active role. but the recent election results shows that you do not need a pretty face to win elections. It needs much more than that.
The Congress had its two full terms in office. The change was imminent. It is the family which won them two terms in office.They did not, however,  expect the kind of defeat that they have suffered. They can not afford to get rid of the family., not now after the rout. It is best to let things stay as they are and pick up the pieces as they go along. They have five years within which to organise themselves. with or without the family.The only thing that that can consign them to the dustbin of history is the voter.  Devinder  






  
From: "vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections
 
And the worst part ofit is that the party now deserves to be consumed to dust-bin, not because of its poor performance in elections but because of post-election behaviour of the Congressmen and its working committee. The Congressmen started a campeign to bring in politics Priyanka Vedra to save the party as if it is a family concern of the Gandhi-Nehru family which can only be saved by the dynasty and the manner the working committee members acted after both its president and vice-president resigned begging of them to withdraw and rejecting their resignation as if the heaven will fall if they did not withdraw shows their slavish mentality and sycophancy.
 
V.S.Sardesai    

From: "devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 
Who do you think should derecognise it and make it a regional party. The rule is that they can not have a recognised leader of the opposition which is a cabinet rank. Otherwise it is a very thin party in opposition marginally better than some other regional parties.  Devinder
From: "Ramakrishna Chitrapu rkchitrapu@hotmail.com [Janshakti]" <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
To: India Force Yahoo Groups <janshakti@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections
 
The day the results were declared , I said derecognise the congress party.. make it a regional party. This paper says it on 18th May??? Media

Ramakrishna
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From: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com To: Janshakti@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:52:37 -0700 Subject: [Janshakti] Fw: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections  
 
 
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:50 AM, "R Padmanabhan  wrote:
 


 
Have a Happy and Wonderful Day.


Subject: The Telegraph on the Congress party after the elections

 
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An editorial that's crisp, pithy, hard-hitting – and very very
correct. Something that Congress party leaders must read –
 if they are in the habit of reading newspaper editorials.
Good bye to all that
Editorial, The Telegraph, May 18, 2014

The election results have put a huge question mark over the word "national", in the Indian National Congress. With less than fifty seats in the 16th Lok Sabha, it has no moral claim to define itself as a national party. The Congress has a past, it has no present. For this plight, the Congress has only its leadership to blame. The principal problem of the Congress is that it is trapped in a time warp. This odd situation makes it talk in terms of a clichéd ideology, makes it depend on one family, and, most importantly, divorces it completely from a young India that is more interested in the future of India than the past. The Congress has been devastated because it failed to speak to the aspirations of the people of India. The Congress leadership — Sonia and Rahul Gandhi — completely failed to comprehend the changes that have overtaken India. Their language was last year's words, and hence not understood and rejected by this year's people.

The central issue before the voters was the one relating to the economy. The Congress addressed the problem by trying to realign and streamline the channels of distribution of wealth and resources. It did not speak about the production of wealth. Thus, the Congress leadership, guided by a kind of vague leftism, spoke in terms of the doling out of subsidies or of policies that were tantamount to the redistribution of poverty, not of wealth. The India of 2014 is weary of this kind of talk and ideology. It wants to see advancements in production, the creation of jobs and a better future. The people heard in the campaign of Narendra Modi an echo of their own hopes and aspirations. To counter this, the Congress could only speak of Mr Modi's past. The election campaign was a battle between harking back to the past and aspiring for a better future. It was a battle whose outcome had been foretold. But the Congress leadership, deaf to all else save its own ideology and vested interests, failed to hear the tocsin. It was rejected, and the people elected Mr Modi with a decisiveness last witnessed in 1984. The Congress now lies stunned.

One reason why the Congress has been impervious to changes is its complete dependence on one family for leadership and wisdom. The Indian National Congress has ceased to be a political party. It is now a dynasty-driven political formation. A terrible testimony of this is the fact that in Uttar Pradesh, the only two seats the Congress won are those of Sonia and Rahul Gandhi. Below the two of them there are no leaders because none have been encouraged lest they become challengers to Mr Gandhi. The attitude of the Gandhi duo to the people of India was manifest in their refusal to take questions after the post-election press conference. It appeared that they believe they are not accountable to anyone save themselves. The people of India have answered back.
 
                                     




         
                     
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