Thursday, September 5, 2013

[rti4empowerment] Fwd: [What they said about Adcocates] Similarity between The Hoarse in Race course and the Advocate in Court

 


Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya,
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"My individual freedom to live as I choose, to come and go as I choose, to believe or not believe as I individually choose.  For me every wind that blows carries message of freedom.  It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. I decide my freedom and not the society and the puppets of high society." For me Samaj Rachana is for suraksha and not for pleasing haves and maligning have nots. Samaj Rachana is for bringing people of all strata together at same level, to give place of pride to those live and sacrifice for Samaj and not for those who exploit Samaj and then show off status. So live and roar like a lion in samaj and not for wagging tail.  ...........Alok 

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From: Blogger <no-reply@blogger.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:23 AM
Subject: [What they said about Adcocates] Similarity between The Hoarse in Race course and the Advocate in Court
To: atholiya@gmail.com



Dilip Gandhi
Sep 4 (2 days ago)

to me
Dear Mr. Alok, You are absolutely correct and you hv courage to say, which others are not having such courage to display their feelings openly. I deeply appreciate your efforts and hope you will continue to write boldly in the interest of public. The same type of situations are faced by me and the prime suffers are we only even after paying hafty fees and various expenses. According to me Advocates are the main cause for the delay in court matters. The basic system is required to be changed. Also suggest remedies.
DILIP GANDHI.

Alok Tholiya <atholiya@gmail.com> wrote:

Keep in mind: There are always exceptions. .......but following is rule , normally...
You bet ( pay fees) on both The Horse in Race course and the Advocate in Court . You are sure that the chosen one by you are the best and you will win. But No. Both in profession are unprofessional, uncertain, whimsical, getting irritated fast , do not promise you to deliver what u expect and pay for ( atleast to honest clients ), they may suddenly get adamant, put down foot, will allow opposite party to over take, want more and more feed......and so on.......a writer can make this a good article ......I in short want to say, You may loose even if you bet on best  pay for best , and after you have paid they will behave irrationally, as per their whims and dictates and you are not the master but mere sufferer spectator and often taking insults while you loose money on them and case / race on other hand. While you thank them for every duty they perform or not perform they only feel that they r obliging you. They know and behave as they r the masters and you are slave once you have appointed them.

And that is true as courts treat them that way. Dates are given as per convenience of Advocates and not litigantsca. Litigant may be fined for taking adjournments although repeated dates may hv been taken cause your advocates is not prepared or done his drafting etc.

The most sold out advocates commit to other party in courts so many things at the cost of their own clients without taking their consent by saying it is in your interest. The Court does not ask for written application / consent from clients / written adjournments applications etc so the vocal powerful influential advocates sways the court and litigants as per his whims and the notes act as a carrot even if offered by other side.

Public prosecutors are mostly the bunch of advocates who are expert in harassing the non bribing complainants and helping the criminals. And that is why we see history sheeters on the go in every street of city/ country.

 The PP, The IO, the criminal side advocates for money do every thing to bias the court, delay the matter to tire out the complainant, to harass the honest and support the wrong doers.
And PP  Chavan said you are not the one paying me. So our paying taxes whole life and they getting ( IO, PP, Judges, ) salary from it is not the thing which we are paying ( heavy taxes which we pay thru noses) and PP wants something out of pocket to unleash  attack on criminals or they will remain dumb  spectator and be a hand in glove of accused advocate. .......

No one tells you this except Alok.......because I wish to die at the instance of PP / IO who have mafias as their patrons  ........or by a terrorist for writing fearlessly on PAK-China ....and whose agents are policy makers and law and order controllers of India.

.......sorry no time to improve draft and make it more effective but truth itself is....



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[rti4empowerment] Fwd: [What they say about Indian Police ] Lathicharge by Mumbai Police on AAPtivist

 


Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya,
Pl. note my alternate no. 9819733057/ 02226125699/26173203
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9324225699 )


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Date: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:41 AM
Subject: [What they say about Indian Police ] Lathicharge by Mumbai Police on AAPtivist
To: atholiya@gmail.com


but bandra, mumbai

  • Aditya Trivedi likes this.
  • Alok Tholiya They want to crush the AAP by sam, dam or danda. But we will not bow down. Hats of to those who faced lathi.Let AAP take Personal accident policy for Satyagrahis to cover such expenses of injuries and death . It is only Rs 100 p. a. per person for 1 lac. Suresh and Varma can jointly do it. I will sponsor 5 very active members who r risking their life.


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[rti4empowerment] Fw: Congrats: Peoples' Power: "RTI Amendment Bill goes to Parliament Standing Committee"

 

Dear All,
 
 
 CONGRATULATIONS. "RTI Amendment Bill goes to Parliament Standing Committee"  :  
 
 
It is has proved once again that India is still a robust democracy where Peoples' Voices are respected. Like to thank Parliamentarians too for listening  to People.
 
 
I must say we need to continue with pressure. At the same time be ready for for putting your views across to the Parl Standing committee. 
 
 
I am writing to Convey our deep gratitude to you all and Media which stood by Peoples' cause and provided complete support.
 
 
If we go by media reports of last 48 hrs. viz. the views of Shri Arun Jaitley,  the Leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha published by media; it could happen that following two paras of the media story could have made him think again. 
 
 
 
 
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"He warns that this proposed amendment can bring similar arguments from all other NGOs, private bodies who get substantially funded from tax-payer money. Even the corporate bodies working on projects on PPP models can take the same stand.
 
 
 
In the instant case, we cannot see any reason which justifies any amendment to the RTI Act, 2005 by the government without consulting all the stakeholders and citizenry at large that include 'Non-Governmental Organisations and Social activists'. This can be done by referring the proposed amendment to the parliamentary standing committee," he adds. (ANI)
 
 
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Cheers, 
 
Best
Commodore Lokesh Batra (Retd.)


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[rti4empowerment] Petition for enquiry of Sahara Q Shop bonds

 

Friends,

Today I, along with wife Nutan, have filed a Writ Petition in the Hon'ble Allahabad High Court, Lucknow Bench praying for enquiry into the issuance of Sahara Q shop bonds/advances.

As per the Petition,. we bought two Sahara Q shop advances where we were told by Sahara Q shop staff that after 6 years, we would get Rs. 2335 in return of Rs. 1000 deposited by them. A Scheme Chart was provided which said that Rs. 1000 would have a redemption value of Rs. 2354 after 6 years. But the General Terms and conditions say that this plan is merely an advance for buying goods.

Finding this inconsistency and coming to know of the Hon'ble Supreme Court Judgement in Sahara India Real Estate Company vs SEBI (
Civil Appeal No. 9833 of 2011), we had sent representations to SEBI, Ministry of Corporate Affairs and Ministry of Consumer Affairs to enquire into the collection of money through Sahara Q shop scheme, in the interest of investors.

Not satisfied with the action taken so far by the concerned authorities, we have now decided to file this Petition.

The matter pertains to the broader issue of investor prtotection and compliance of Rule of Law particularly as regards collection of public money and we hope enquiry is done in this matter very soon so as to save the interests of lakhs of investors, along with that of ours.

Copy of the Writ Petition--


Copy of the representation--


Amitabh Thakur
Lucknow
# 094155-34526

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Tuesday, September 3, 2013

[rti4empowerment] Fwd: [menow] What happened to 8 wealthiest people in the world?

 




What happened to 8 wealthiest people in the world?

"In 1923, eight of the wealthiest people in the world met. Their combined wealth, estimated, exceeded the wealth of the govt of the United States. These men knew how to make a living and accumulate wealth. 25 years later...

1. President of the largest steel company, Charles Schwab, died bankrupt.

2. President of the largest gas company, Howard Hubson, went insane.

3. One of the greatest commodity traders, Arthur Cutton, died insolvent.

4. President of the New York Stock Exchange, Richard Whitney, was sent to jail.

5. A member of the President's Cabinet, Albert Fall, was pardoned from jail.

6. The greatest "bear" on Wall Street, Jessie Livermore, committed suicide.

7. President of the world's greatest monopoly, Ivar Krueger, committed suicide.

8. President, Bank of International Settlement, Leon Fraser, committed suicide.

They forgot to make a life! Just made Money!

Money provides food for the hungry, medicine for the sick, clothes for the needy, but is only a medium of exchange.

We need two kinds of education. One that teaches us how to make a living and one that teaches us how to live.
People are engrossed in their professional life and neglect their family, health and social responsibilities.

Without water, a ship cannot move. The ship needs water, but if the water gets into the ship, the ship will sink.

Similarly we live in a time where earning is a necessity but let not the earning enter our hearts, for what was once a means of living will become a means of destruction. So take a moment and ask yourself..has the water entered my ship?"
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[rti4empowerment] Most Immediate: Hon'ble MP Baijayant 'Jay' Panda posted in his Facebook Account

 

Following Received which I am circulating.
 
 
Hon'ble MP Baijayant 'Jay' Panda posted in his Facebook Account
 
 
Please verify from social website:
 
 
Hon'ble MP Baijayant 'Jay' Panda posted in his Facebook Account
 
 
 
Also Read PTI story:
 
 
 
 
 
 
Omar Abdullah pitches for political parties under RTI Act
 
 
 
Please go ahead and read following post of Hon'ble MP Baijayant 'Jay' Panda posted on Facebook
 
 
 
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https://www.facebook.com/Baijayant.Jay.Panda

Hon'ble MP Baijayant 'Jay' Panda posted in his Facebook Account:

"The battle for RTI has been building up, and tomorrow is high noon in the Lok Sabha! Want to make a difference? NOW is the time. For the past couple of weeks, I have been working with many activists' and citizens'. My initial letter to the Hon'ble Speaker to refer it to a standing committee (where the public can also contribute suggestions) was turned down; but subsequently, all the combined efforts started yielding results, and two other MPs (Ajoy Kumar and Dinesh Trivedi) also took a stand, writing to the Speaker on the same lines. Today, we had the additional gratification of having Sushma Swaraj, Gurudas Dasgupta, and some other leaders also join in making the same demand. Separately, Arun Jaitley is rumoured to have told his party that this proposed amendment is unconstitutional. Even some UPA MPs are reportedly concerned. However, not all parties are on board, and it is likely that the RTI amendment will be taken up in the house tomorrow and passed. The crucial difference, why the govt can be so brazen about this, is: HOW MANY OF THE MPs/PARTIES WILL ACTUALLY VOTE AGAINST THE GOVT on the floor of the house?? I certainly will, and in fact will demand a division (voting) so that a record remains of who actually stood up when it mattered. I still have a hope, even if somewhat faint, that IF ENOUGH OF YOU PITCH IN NOW and contact MPs thru social media and phone, tomorrow could, just possibly, see the tables being turned...

@Panda_Jay on Twitter"

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Sunday, September 1, 2013

[rti4empowerment] The Blame lies sqaurely on Swami Vivevakand

 

The Blame lies on Swami Vivevakand

I had read the story "Haar ki jeet" (Victory of defeat) where the great story-teller Sudarshan had tried to establish the importance of faith in human beings and humanity per se. The story presented how there is no offence more serious than throttling the faith a human being reposes on his fellow beings. Somehow, this story has always remained one of the guiding principles of life, possibly because my own temperament is also molded in the same way. While many occasions came when I doubts erupted as regards one or two or many other human beings, but never for once did I lose my faith in humanity per se.

It is not that I always remained a living or burning example of magnanimity and generosity. On the contrary, there were many occasions when I came as being an extremely ordinary person or even a very stingy and uncharitable one, who was completely self-centered. Hence when I refer to the story Haar ki jeet, the purpose is not for once to glorify myself in any manner, but only to present the larger format of my thought process.

I had read something along the same lines in my school book where Swami Vivekanand had said that even if he is cheated by human being a thousand times, he is not going to lose his faith in humanity even by an iota. This sentence remained the basis of my thinking and shall remain so for ever.

Yet while it is true that my faith will remain undivided but the kind of episode I present here are the ones that often act as the catalyst for people getting susceptible of each other and disbelieve spreading among human beings.

I was SP in Gonda district in the year 2003-04. There among many people, he also came in contact with one Manoj Tiwari who was associated with one of the political parties at that time. He use to come to me with some public issues now or then.

Even after getting transferred from Gonda, we remained in contact because he used to visit me at my Lucknow residence as courtesy visits. He used to tell me that he know generally lives in Lucknow and is a contractor. I also had a mobile number of his in my possession.

On 04 June 2013, he phoned me in the morning at my mobile number 094155-34526 saying that his mother is critically ill and she is admitted in Lohia Hospital, lucknow, for which he is in immediate need of money. He has been able to collect the rest of money and in case I could give him Rs. 6000, it would be a great service to him. He pledged that he would return the money in a few days. .

Since I had been fairly knowing him for long and he talked about his mother's illness, hence I thought that not helping him would be improper and inhuman. My wife Nutan had her doubts about this but I even ignored her voice in the name of this person's illness, leading to slight skirmish between us.

After some time, Tiwari came to my house and I myself gave him Rs. 6000. I also saved the new phone number from which he had called me. I had given Rs. 5000 as loan to my newspaper-vender only a few days ago for his daughter's marriage and hence I noted the details of the two loans in a copy for my remembrance.

Newspaper vender's loan gets deducted every month in his bills but Tiwari was never heard after he took money. I also did not phone him for days thinking of some untoward happening where asking for money would not look appropriate.

Yesterday on 31/08/2013, after many days I remembered the matter and phone him on both his numbers 08858067067 and 07398983327 at around 19.09. While phone number 07398983327 was found switched off, as is it presently, some other person picked phone number 08858067067 who told he is from a place called Itwa. He said he was fed up with this number where many calls came, often asking for money from Manoj Tiwari.

I immediately understood this was again a case of cheating where Tiwari had used his mother's name to cheat me. I contacted my known people in Gonda and from there I came to know that Manoj, son of Mathura Prasad Tiwari was from Katra Bazar though his family now lived in Azad Nagar colony, near CMS school Gonda city. It was also told that he has been living in Lucknow for long and other such complaints of cheating people and swindling money in like manner are also there where he later changes his mobile number after cheating a person.

Hence this prima-facie seems to be a matter of cheating where Tiwari cheats people like me and others by taking such humane and sensitive pretext and later evaporates in thin air by changing place of residence etc.

For me these 6000 rupees are not important as is the murder of my faith and cheating in mother's name. Hence I got an FIR registered at Gomti nagar police station. Being a police officer, my FIR was registered much easily, though what will happen in the case is known only to the God almighty.

But I know for sure that such kind of Manoj Tiewaris not only harm themselves, they simultaneously harm the interests of thousands of other Manoj Tiwaris by creating a sense of disbelief and lack of mutual trust in each other. To cheat others in the name of one's mother- nothing could be more abhorrent than this.

Despite this incidence, I shall remain bound to my thoughts and ideology as stated by Baba Bharati and Swami Vivekananda but won't it be better if lesser number of such Manoj Tiwaris alias robber Khadag Singh are born who always put the entire humanity at stake, for a pittance.

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Amitabh Thakur
Lucknow
# 094155-34526

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